06/20/25

How To Fight The Brain’s Desire For Revenge

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When someone wrongs us, why does getting even feel so good? In his new book, The Science of Revenge: Understanding the World’s Deadliest Addiction—and How to Overcome It, lawyer and revenge researcher James Kimmel Jr. says our brains might be wired to go tit-for-tat and that revenge can be a dangerous addiction. Hosts Flora Lichtman and Ira Flatow talk with Kimmel about the neuroscience of revenge and how we can learn to control the urge to get even.


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James Kimmel Jr.

James Kimmel, Jr. is the author of The Science of Revenge: Understanding the World’s Deadliest Addiction–and How to Overcome It. He’s also a lawyer, lecturer in psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine, and the founder and co-director of the Yale Collaborative for Motive Control Studies.

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Ira Flatow is the founder and host of Science FridayHis green thumb has revived many an office plant at death’s door.

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Flora Lichtman is a host of Science Friday. In a previous life, she lived on a research ship where apertivi were served on the top deck, hoisted there via pulley by the ship’s chef.

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