04/25/2025

Untangling The Mind-Body Connection In Chronic Pain

an illustration of a person built of nerves experiencing pain
Illustration by Dadu Shin

Chronic pain is remarkably common: Roughly 20% of adults in the US live with it. And people with chronic pain are more likely to have depression, anxiety, and substance abuse disorders. But this relationship between physical and mental health is not as straightforward as you might think, and there’s still a stigma attached to neuro-psychological causes of chronic pain.

The latest research suggests that untangling the connections between mind and body is a key part of developing better treatments for people with chronic pain. Now, a new psychological treatment called pain reprocessing therapy has shown initial success in eliminating back pain in research participants.

Producer Shoshannah Buxbaum joins Host Flora Lichtman to share her reporting on the intersection of mental health and chronic pain.


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Segment Guests

Lauren Heathcote

Dr. Lauren Heathcote is a Senior Lecturer in Health Psychology in the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience at King’s College London in London, England.

Yoni Ashar

Dr. Yoni Ashar is an assistant professor and Co-Director of the Pain Science Program at University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora, Colorado.

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