09/02/2025

The Shape-Shifting Science Of Sand Dunes

In some places, sand dunes protect shorelines from the onslaught of ocean waves. In other places, the dunes themselves are on the move, and threaten human structures.

Host Flora Lichtman talks with mechanical engineer Nathalie Vriend, who studies the structure of sand dunes, about what makes a heap of sand a dune, and what scientists still hope to learn about sand.


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Segment Guests

Nathalie Vriend

Dr. Nathalie Vriend is an Associate Professor in mechanical engineering and leader of the Granular Flow Laboratory at the University of Colorado in Boulder.

Jessica Barnes

Dr. Jessica Barnes is an Associate Professor in the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory at the University of Arizona.

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About Charles Bergquist

As Science Friday’s director and senior producer, Charles Bergquist channels the chaos of a live production studio into something sounding like a radio program. Favorite topics include planetary sciences, chemistry, materials, and shiny things with blinking lights.

About Flora Lichtman

Flora Lichtman is a host of Science Friday. In a previous life, she lived on a research ship where apertivi were served on the top deck, hoisted there via pulley by the ship’s chef.

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